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So the jury was expected to deliver a verdict on Allen Andrare's murder of Angie Zapata.

They only deliberated for two hours.


Thirty-two-year-old Allen Andrade is charged with murder and a bias-motivated crime in the death of 18-year-old Angie Zapata.

From the #justiceforangie Twitter:
At 4:00 PM MDT, Allen will be sentenced to mandatory life without parole. #zapata


I feel so relieved.

And yet, Cara makes a damned fine point: "When a woman is dead and nothing can bring her back, I don't think there is such a thing as 'justice' anymore".

And, I'm sad, that Angie had to die, just to keep someone as dangerous as Andrare off the streets. Also, I'm glad, because people recognize she didn't have to die, and are acknowledging it in the verdict, that she was human and had the right to live, and that was stolen from her.

It's not a happy feeling, but any long shot.

He got life.

That doesn't cancel out the fact that for Angie's family and friends, they have lost someone dear. And that a young woman was killed.

=(

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Date: 2009-04-23 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolan-ash.livejournal.com
That doesn't cancel out the fact that for Angie's family and friends, they have lost someone dear. And that a young woman was killed.

True. But consider the amazing legacy that Angie has left. Now that courts are ruling that this was biased-motivated (is that the cleaned-up term for "hate crime" these days?) it might make other haters think twice. This will set precedent for future court cases and may save or justify future trans victims (including ones who were assaulted, but not killed)

May I also say, I think it's awesome how concerned and active you are for gay and trans issues, even though they don't apply to you. Activism of any kind is wonderful, but so often people only fight for the causes that affect them. (And I think you're of the belief that if it affects a part of us, it affects the whole, and I completely agree with that too)

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Date: 2009-04-24 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasyecho.livejournal.com
That's being rather positive about the whole thing - there're still several cases of transpeople being killed and none of them have found justice. It's a mixture of many circumstances which lead to them simply not being recognized as human in the eyes of the jury. And that's even if the cases get to courts in the first place.

Certainly one of the most amazing things about this verdict is that it was passed by a jury that comprised of mostly male, all white, mostly middle-aged people. For them to judge the way they did in this case of a transgendered, young Latina woman is a huge - a huge thing.

I identify as queer, so these issues do affect me! :P I just so happen to have blogged a lot about Angie's case. I could be doing more - trans issues are regularly ignored by larger groups, even by feminist and other LGB groups. Recently a transblogger called for a boycott on Feministe because even though Feministe does extremely well as a feminist site, since most of their bloggers are cis-gendered women, they carry cis-privilege which often they're not aware of, and a thread on trans issues got derailed into a thread about cis issues, which was patently unfair. LGB groups also dismiss trans issues on a regular basis. Of the sexuality-minority groups, trans are definitely most in need of allies. I wouldn't say I'm a good one, though.

Transphobia's root causes have to do with misogyny and the cult of masculinity, which are in turn damaging to all members of society. It's not just a matter of hitting one part and hurting the whole, but that the root of the matter poisons the whole to start with, and simply manifests itself most clearly in one part of society.

Thanks for the vote of confidence ;)

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Date: 2009-04-23 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eiko82.livejournal.com
I'm glad to hear that he got life without parole.

I can only hope that it'll stop others from killing others out of hate.

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Date: 2009-04-24 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasyecho.livejournal.com
One hopes. However, she wasn't a sex worker, she wasn't a person of colour, and she had family support.

Many trans can't claim the same, which is why their cases get dismissed so easily.

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Date: 2009-04-23 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nosidagi.livejournal.com
Justice is for the living the dead leave behind. Or to salve society's sense of moral outrage. Whichever the reader likes better.

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Date: 2009-04-23 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nosidagi.livejournal.com
Bearing in mind that the legal system in most countries is far mor concerned with law than actual justice.

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Date: 2009-04-24 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasyecho.livejournal.com
Well, it does keep a dangerous person off the streets, so I can't complain too much about that in this case. But the fact that these people exist in the first place still sticks in my craw.

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