I was going to say that it depends on whether vampires are dead or not, or whether they're considered human or no longer.
But then I remembered, hang on, animals engage in necrophilia too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia#Animals).
Now, if the vampire is a reanimated corpse that's powered by the vitae of living creatures, you'd think this gets complicated, but I don't think it does -- whatever it is, live or dead, a vampire is an organism, and since it can move and react to its surroundings, you can still use language that was reserved for entities that are humans and animals. So I'm figuring that, yes, even when we're talking about dead vampire variants, it's still called necrophilia.
Now... the question is... if a robot fucks a corpse, is that necrophilia too?
Is it necrophilia when a puppet zombie, 100% controlled by its master and with no thought or volition, fucks a corpse?
Then why is that called a vampire?
To my understanding vampires are by themselves independent creatures, and the kind of control that they have would possibly come from a sire to their offspring, but that's usually portrayed as, you know, dominating mental control, and removal of previous personality, with the vampire retaining some autonomous control and functionality. If the master's attention is diverted, the vampire would still be able to defend itself if you were attacking it, which wouldn't be the case if we're talking about puppets that are 100% controlled by someone else.
If they're complete and utter automatons, then why aren't they called ghouls or zombies (or zuvembis, if we're going to use AD&D terminology)?
I think it is. Vampires may not be properly breathing or metabolizing, but generally I think if it's acting like a person, treat it like one, which means that the rules about necrophilia and such apply.
So is it bestiality when a vampire fucks a werewolf in wolf form? I would tend to say not, because a werewolf is still a person, at least in most fiction, but then there are legendary aspects that seem to indicate that the wolf form is only an animal and doesn't retain humanity.
And some werewolves are considered separate species from humanity, at least in the Old World of Darkness novels.
Which is interesting, because despite all of this, in that universe, werewolves breed with humans and wolves, and it is preferable to do so, because werewolf/werewolf mating was often bad news, as the offspring would be sterile.
So it's not really a species barrier. On top of that, or werewolves generally involve themselves in bestiality all the time.
If you're looking for it, you may find it in sources that describe the rules for Werewolf: The Apocalypse -- children born of werewolf-werewolf matings were called the metis, and not only were they sterile, they often had deformities or derangements.
It's possible that that was the origin of the word. But métis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis) also describes someone of multiracial parentage, and there are a group of people called the metis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis_people_%28Canada%29) in Canada.
Considering how much of W:TA's mythology was supposed to resemble Native American mythology, I think I may have spotted some kind of RaceFail.
It's only necrophilia if the zombie does not retain any autonomous functions. Obviously fucking "live" zombies (i.e. 28 Days Later zombies) are okay, since they're still alive, so it's not necrophilia.
With classic zombies, though, it's necrophilia, mainly because they are considered automatons, in a sense (rogue ones, admittedly). BUT... with regards to Land of the Dead's "Big Daddy", maybe not, since he and his kind were already showing signs of intelligence.
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I was going to say that it depends on whether vampires are dead or not, or whether they're considered human or no longer.
But then I remembered, hang on, animals engage in necrophilia too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia#Animals).
Now, if the vampire is a reanimated corpse that's powered by the vitae of living creatures, you'd think this gets complicated, but I don't think it does -- whatever it is, live or dead, a vampire is an organism, and since it can move and react to its surroundings, you can still use language that was reserved for entities that are humans and animals. So I'm figuring that, yes, even when we're talking about dead vampire variants, it's still called necrophilia.
Now... the question is... if a robot fucks a corpse, is that necrophilia too?
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Then that raises the question of: is this particular vampire a person, or an automaton like some zombies?
Is it necrophilia when a puppet zombie, 100% controlled by its master and with no thought or volition, fucks a corpse?
(Wow, this is getting gruesome.)
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To my understanding vampires are by themselves independent creatures, and the kind of control that they have would possibly come from a sire to their offspring, but that's usually portrayed as, you know, dominating mental control, and removal of previous personality, with the vampire retaining some autonomous control and functionality. If the master's attention is diverted, the vampire would still be able to defend itself if you were attacking it, which wouldn't be the case if we're talking about puppets that are 100% controlled by someone else.
If they're complete and utter automatons, then why aren't they called ghouls or zombies (or zuvembis, if we're going to use AD&D terminology)?
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My brain not wurk. Sorry, I don't know how that happened.
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So is it bestiality when a vampire fucks a werewolf in wolf form? I would tend to say not, because a werewolf is still a person, at least in most fiction, but then there are legendary aspects that seem to indicate that the wolf form is only an animal and doesn't retain humanity.
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Which is interesting, because despite all of this, in that universe, werewolves breed with humans and wolves, and it is preferable to do so, because werewolf/werewolf mating was often bad news, as the offspring would be sterile.
So it's not really a species barrier. On top of that, or werewolves generally involve themselves in bestiality all the time.
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...and yeah, that's what it was called. =/
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And wasn't Metis the Mother of Athena whom Zeus swallowed to prevent her from giving birth to a son that would kill him?
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It's possible that that was the origin of the word. But métis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis) also describes someone of multiracial parentage, and there are a group of people called the metis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis_people_%28Canada%29) in Canada.
Considering how much of W:TA's mythology was supposed to resemble Native American mythology, I think I may have spotted some kind of RaceFail.
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It's only necrophilia if the zombie does not retain any autonomous functions. Obviously fucking "live" zombies (i.e. 28 Days Later zombies) are okay, since they're still alive, so it's not necrophilia.
With classic zombies, though, it's necrophilia, mainly because they are considered automatons, in a sense (rogue ones, admittedly). BUT... with regards to Land of the Dead's "Big Daddy", maybe not, since he and his kind were already showing signs of intelligence.
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