WTF AMERICA?

[jhameia]

Now that we've got Obama into the White House, let's have a look at the local ballot measures, in particular Proposition 8 (in California, banning gay marriage) and Measure 11 (South Dakota, limiting abortion).

So far, it looks like

YES TO 8? WTF?

YES TO 11? WTF?

YES TO BANNING GAY MARRIAGE (yes, Arizona and California and Florida)

YES TO BANNING GAY COUPLES FROM ADOPTING (fuck you, Arkansas)

YES TO LIMITING ABORTION (South Dakota, leaning towards No in California)

NO TO HIRING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (fuck you too, Arizona, why won't anyone remember that white people were once illegal immigrants, too??)

Not all the precincts have reported in yet, but still, this is mind-boggling!

Comments

[salzara-tirwen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that page was seriously disturbing. What the HELL makes people think it's okay to legislate other people's rights away? The states should be taking the federal constitution as a model and all it's ever done has expand rights.
(Except for Prohibition but that was repealed.)

[fantasyecho.livejournal.com]

Well, Measure 11 in South Dakota is leaning towards No with 100% precincts reporting, so there's something.

But still, it's so damn upsetting how negative the results are for LGBT issues. =(

[eiko82.livejournal.com]

WTF? That's depressing.

[zibblsnrt.livejournal.com]

The Arizona one's good if that's your stance, actually - the no vote was about revoking business licenses for companies who do hire them.

8 and Arkansas' adoption one piss me off the most, if just because the former's annulling some existing marriages and, well, Arkansas. Agh.

[tenchan.livejournal.com]

Elsewhere, voters in Colorado and South Dakota rejected measures that could have led to sweeping bans of abortion, and Washington became only the second state — after Oregon — to offer terminally ill people the option of physician-assisted suicide.

the one in SD didn't pass

[fantasyecho.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I saw that. Haven't gotten around to posting about those yet.

And I'm SO glad South Dakota's Measure 11 didn't pass! It was getting sooooo close there for a while. Then this morning I came back to my table after taking a pee break and I saw the Projected Winner was No and I just breathed this HUGE sigh of relief.

[tenchan.livejournal.com]

I' not happy about 8 being defeated...but it'll come in time. Like it or not.

[fantasyecho.livejournal.com]

WE'LL GET THOSE SUCKERS NEXT TIME.

RAAAAAAAAAAAA.

[tenchan.livejournal.com]

Oh, jesus, my dear there're so many loopholes in the US legal system, it's like swiss cheese! Besides, the measure BARELY passed. That sets it up for contention right there. There's about a zillion ways the law can be challenged, have holes poked into it, etc, etc.

Wait for Arnie to get kicked out of office, and the O-man in the head seat, you'll see the measure pass...Now the measures in the other states...maybe not so much.

Having lived in many, the generality dictates that the populace are generally bible-thumping, sexually conservative ignoramuses. Keep in mind, in the US, sex education is something parents insist they'll teach their kids about, however when it comes down to it, they know as much as a pile of leaves...and if it's a topic that's seen as taboo, it's not even discussed and usually has a number of 'if I ever hear of you doing that' threats mixed in there, charging a young rebellious teen to want to do it just cause.

Anyway...Canada did the smart thing and saved itself a lot of stupidity and hassle and just legalized gay marriage. Someday we'll stop acting like a thirty year old still in it's rebellious I know everything teenage phase and get on with worrying about human rights.

[fantasyecho.livejournal.com]

Having lived in many, the generality dictates that the populace are generally bible-thumping, sexually conservative ignoramuses.
That sounds so scary, like, how is it possible that an entire country gets to look that way?

[zibblsnrt.livejournal.com]

It's being challenged on (state) constitutional grounds as we speak, actually. That'll be one ugly court case, but California's judiciary leaning the sane way on issues like this is part of why people wanted the proposition in the first place, so I'm cautiously optimistic.

On a more, ah, fundamental level, there's apparently a move getting started to get the IRS to revoke the Mormons' tax-exempt status because of their open involvement in the Prop 8 campaign.

[fantasyecho.livejournal.com]

Ahahaha, that's excellent.