LCL quotes
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jhameiaWhich I found interesting to use and helped me define my topic:
But in the Midlands and the industrial North, gulf impassable, across which no communion could take place - You stick to your side, I'll stick to mine! - A strange denial of the common pulse of humanity. (LCL 14)
15 But she could not help feeling how little connection he really had with people. The miners were, in a sense, his own men: but he saw them as objects than men, parts of the pit than as parts of life, and crude raw phenomena rather than human beings along with him.
31 Mick *couldnt* keep anything up. It was part of his very being, that he must break off any connection, and be loose, isolated, absolutely lone dog again.
37 "Real knowledge comes out of the whole corpus of consciousness, out of your belly and your penis as much as out of your brain and mind ... While you *live* your life, you are in some way an organic whhole with all life. But once you start the mental life, you pluck the apple. You've severed the connection between the apple and the tree: the organic connection. And if you've got nothing in your life *but* the mental life, then you yourself are a plucked apple ... and then it is a logical necessity to be spiteful, just as it's a natural necessity for a plucked apple to go bad" ~ Tommy Dukes, on the difference between the mental life and the physical life. Tommy Dukes is perhaps the only one who comes close to the same kind of connection that Mellors and Connie share, although he never quite achieves it himself. He is the only one out of the Cambridge intellectuals who takes this stances.
45 Isn't the whole problem of life the slow building of an integral personality through the years? living an integrated life? ~ Clifford, on what life really should be like. There is a question of what exactly he means by "integrated" as opposed to "disintegrated". He never quite answers what a person is supposed to be integrated in, and one could draw the assumption that the integration is into a pattern of life, and of habit - the system that is continued at Wragby.
72 But Clifford was not like that. His whole race was not like that. They were all inwardly hard and separate, and warmth to them was just bad taste. ~ Connie observing Clifford's state. Here there is a yearning for something more than the "integrated in habit" life that she's living with him.
74 "So long as you can forget your body, you are happy," said Lady Bennerly. "And the moment you begin to be aware of your body, you are wretched..."
75 "Give me the resurrection of the body! ... Then we'll get a democracy of touch, instead of democracy of pocket." ~ Tommy Dukes, another exclaimation supportive of the physical life, instead of the mental or even industrial / commercial life.
100 Secret triumph, and private satisfaction! Ugh, that private satisfaction! How Connie hated it! ~ Connie's first flicker of the hatred for the private individual. One could postulate that this is her first inkling that there is more out there besides the individualism that the intellectual life she has led so far can offer her.
107 Mrs Bolton made him aware of outside things. Inwardly he began to go soft as pulp. But outwardly he began to be effective. ~ Mrs Bolton's effect on Clifford. It makes him more of an invidual on the outside, even though he becomes even more attuned to the industrial world. Through Mrs. Bolton Clifford finds his connection to the industrial world.
134 And then began again the unspeakable motion that was not really motion, but pure deepening whirlpools of sensation, swirling deeper and deeper through all her tissues and consciousness, till she was one perfect concentric fluid of feeling. ~ Connie's orgasm puts her in touch with an organic connection to something that could be called the "cosmos", as is termed by Lawrence.
135 it made her feel she was different from her old self, and as if she was sinking deep, deel to the centre of all womanhood, and the sleep of creation.
...
For if she adored him too much, then she would lose herself, become effaced. And she did not want to become effaced.
~ Connie feels hesitant at melting into the connection that she feels when she is with Mellors. Her individuality is very important.
142 The connection between them was growing closer. He would see the day when it was would clinch up, and they would have to make a life together. "For the bonds of love are ill to loose!"
~ Mellors contemplates the future. The idea of connection here is the love that is growing between the two lovers. Lawrence seems to be making the point that love (eros kind) is the most important in the human attempt to reconnect to the cosmos.
143 He felt his own unfinished condition of aloneness cruelly. ~ Mellors, having been brought back into contact with organic life again through sex with Connie, in effect knows what he has missed and what he requires to feel finished again.
153 Even in him, there was no fellowship left. It was dead. The fellowship was dead. There was only apartness and hopelessness, as far as all this was concerned.
172 Cold and derisive her queer female mind stood apart.
~ Connie's unwillingness to let herself go during intercourse, wanting to wait until Mellors is done, perhaps out of habit.
183 "Aristocracy is a function, a part of fate. And the masses are a functioning of another part of fate. the individual hardly matters. It is a question of which function you are brought up to and adapted to. It is not the individuals that make up an aristocracy: it is the functioning of the aristocratic wholoe. And it is the functioning of the whole mass that makes the common man what he is." ~ Clifford, on his idea of the industrial mass. His connection is obviously industrial, and while he still retains his individuality, his sense of connection is mechanical, fatalist, not the organic connection that Connie and Mellors share.
202 "Self! self! self! all self! tearing and shouting! They talk about a man's sensual selfishness, but I doubt if it can ever touch a woman's blind beakishness, once she's gone that way ... It was a low kind of self-will in her, a raving sort of self-will..." ~ Mellors (by proxy, Lawrence) rails against the selfishness a woman displays when she attempts to take her own sexual satisfaction into her hands, because naturally, a man is the active agent while the woman is the passive, and there is no natural rhythm nor real connection when both parties are getting their orgasms separately.
206 "I believe if men could fuck with warm hearts, and women take it warm-heartedly, everything would come all right." ~ Mellors again, discussing the emotional connection that lovers should be sharing when engaging in intercourse.
214 And again, in the gambling, he was gone in a kind of unconsciousness, or blank intoxication, or intoxication of blankness, whatever it was. ~ Clifford does not gain any kind of connection in his gambling with Mrs Bolton, but oblivion.
233 'The universe shows two aspects: on one side it is physically wasting, on the other side it is spiritually ascending.-'
~ This is intellectual / spiritual aspect of connection that Clifford is aiming for, and Connie juxtaposes it against the "resurrection of the body" that Tommy Dukes upholds.
247 They made one think one wanted sentiment. When what one supremely wanted was this piercing, consuming, rather awful sensuality.
~ Lawrence makes his point again that the best connection to be found isn't in sentiment, nor intellectualism, but in sensual love.
253 "I've never met the man yet who was capable of intimacy with a woman - giving himself up to her. That was what I wanted. I'm not keen on their self-satsified tenderness, and their sensuality. I'm not content to be any man's little petsy-wetsy, nor his chair a plairsir either. I wanted a complete intimacy, and I didn't get it. That's enough for me."
...
Complete intimacy! She supposed that meant revealing everything concening yourself to the other person, and his revealing everything concerning himself.
~ Hilda's idea of connection - it is in terms of personality. A bit like Clifford's idea of the habit of marriage, but not quite there.
271 "Perhaps only people who are capable of real togetherness have that look of being alone in the universe," said Connie. "The others have a certain stickiness, they stick to the mass, like Giovanni."
~ Connie making an observation of Daniele, but also of Mellors at the same time. It is an interesting parallel, that people who look apart from society and civilization should be the most capable of organic connection.
277 "Sex is really only touch, the closest of all touch. And it's touch we're afraid of. We're only half-conscious and half-alive. We've got to come alive and aware." ~ Mellors.
323 We are bleeding at the roots, because we are cut off from the earth and sun and stars, and love is a grinning mockery because, poor blossom, we plucked it from its stem on the tree of Life, and expected it to keep on blooming in our civilised vase on the table.
328 The rhythm of the cosmos is something we cannot get away from, without bitterly impoverishing our lives.
330 Now we have to re-establish the great relationships which the grand idealists, with their underlying pessimism, their belief that life is nothing but futile conflict, to be avoided even unto death, destroyed for us. Buddha, Plato, Jesus, they were all three utter pessimists as regards life, teaching that the only happiness lay in abstracting oneself from life, the daily, yearly, seasonal life of birth and death and fruition, and in living the "immutable" or eternal spirit.
Linked to 233 quote : Clifford's spiritual ascendence.
The wounds of war have made clifford unable to tolerate human contact (Adelman 99)
His self-presevation requires a negation of human contact (Adelman 100)
Lawrence the literary philosopher, created an organic world view in which everything fit. (Adelman 54)
Lawrence himself, so invested in fracturing the binary between the intellect and emotions... (Adelman 109)
He is concerned always with human relationships, with the relations of the self to other selves, with the possibility of fulfilment of personality, and with exposing all the dead formulas - about romantic love, about friendship, about marriage, about the good life - which can cause so much deadness or frustration or distortion in the life of the individual. (Daiches 141)
But for Lawrence, problems of civilization must always be focused through problems of personal relationships, because civilization is judged by the kinds and qualities of human relationships it makes possible. (Daiches 146)
Joint participation in Clifford's work appears to offer Clifford and Connie some shared and meaningful activity... But this shared project is not long sustained ... This sentence contrasts strikingly with the narrator's conclusion Connie and Mellors after they have struggled together to push Clifford's chair uphill (Shiach 95)
He extricates himself imaginatively from the economic relations and industrial forms of production that dominate the world around him ... (Shiach 100)
We need at least three works cited and five works consulted. I've got the three works cited.
I know I should cite something from the Recollections I have, but baaahhh...
But in the Midlands and the industrial North, gulf impassable, across which no communion could take place - You stick to your side, I'll stick to mine! - A strange denial of the common pulse of humanity. (LCL 14)
15 But she could not help feeling how little connection he really had with people. The miners were, in a sense, his own men: but he saw them as objects than men, parts of the pit than as parts of life, and crude raw phenomena rather than human beings along with him.
31 Mick *couldnt* keep anything up. It was part of his very being, that he must break off any connection, and be loose, isolated, absolutely lone dog again.
37 "Real knowledge comes out of the whole corpus of consciousness, out of your belly and your penis as much as out of your brain and mind ... While you *live* your life, you are in some way an organic whhole with all life. But once you start the mental life, you pluck the apple. You've severed the connection between the apple and the tree: the organic connection. And if you've got nothing in your life *but* the mental life, then you yourself are a plucked apple ... and then it is a logical necessity to be spiteful, just as it's a natural necessity for a plucked apple to go bad" ~ Tommy Dukes, on the difference between the mental life and the physical life. Tommy Dukes is perhaps the only one who comes close to the same kind of connection that Mellors and Connie share, although he never quite achieves it himself. He is the only one out of the Cambridge intellectuals who takes this stances.
45 Isn't the whole problem of life the slow building of an integral personality through the years? living an integrated life? ~ Clifford, on what life really should be like. There is a question of what exactly he means by "integrated" as opposed to "disintegrated". He never quite answers what a person is supposed to be integrated in, and one could draw the assumption that the integration is into a pattern of life, and of habit - the system that is continued at Wragby.
72 But Clifford was not like that. His whole race was not like that. They were all inwardly hard and separate, and warmth to them was just bad taste. ~ Connie observing Clifford's state. Here there is a yearning for something more than the "integrated in habit" life that she's living with him.
74 "So long as you can forget your body, you are happy," said Lady Bennerly. "And the moment you begin to be aware of your body, you are wretched..."
75 "Give me the resurrection of the body! ... Then we'll get a democracy of touch, instead of democracy of pocket." ~ Tommy Dukes, another exclaimation supportive of the physical life, instead of the mental or even industrial / commercial life.
100 Secret triumph, and private satisfaction! Ugh, that private satisfaction! How Connie hated it! ~ Connie's first flicker of the hatred for the private individual. One could postulate that this is her first inkling that there is more out there besides the individualism that the intellectual life she has led so far can offer her.
107 Mrs Bolton made him aware of outside things. Inwardly he began to go soft as pulp. But outwardly he began to be effective. ~ Mrs Bolton's effect on Clifford. It makes him more of an invidual on the outside, even though he becomes even more attuned to the industrial world. Through Mrs. Bolton Clifford finds his connection to the industrial world.
134 And then began again the unspeakable motion that was not really motion, but pure deepening whirlpools of sensation, swirling deeper and deeper through all her tissues and consciousness, till she was one perfect concentric fluid of feeling. ~ Connie's orgasm puts her in touch with an organic connection to something that could be called the "cosmos", as is termed by Lawrence.
135 it made her feel she was different from her old self, and as if she was sinking deep, deel to the centre of all womanhood, and the sleep of creation.
...
For if she adored him too much, then she would lose herself, become effaced. And she did not want to become effaced.
~ Connie feels hesitant at melting into the connection that she feels when she is with Mellors. Her individuality is very important.
142 The connection between them was growing closer. He would see the day when it was would clinch up, and they would have to make a life together. "For the bonds of love are ill to loose!"
~ Mellors contemplates the future. The idea of connection here is the love that is growing between the two lovers. Lawrence seems to be making the point that love (eros kind) is the most important in the human attempt to reconnect to the cosmos.
143 He felt his own unfinished condition of aloneness cruelly. ~ Mellors, having been brought back into contact with organic life again through sex with Connie, in effect knows what he has missed and what he requires to feel finished again.
153 Even in him, there was no fellowship left. It was dead. The fellowship was dead. There was only apartness and hopelessness, as far as all this was concerned.
172 Cold and derisive her queer female mind stood apart.
~ Connie's unwillingness to let herself go during intercourse, wanting to wait until Mellors is done, perhaps out of habit.
183 "Aristocracy is a function, a part of fate. And the masses are a functioning of another part of fate. the individual hardly matters. It is a question of which function you are brought up to and adapted to. It is not the individuals that make up an aristocracy: it is the functioning of the aristocratic wholoe. And it is the functioning of the whole mass that makes the common man what he is." ~ Clifford, on his idea of the industrial mass. His connection is obviously industrial, and while he still retains his individuality, his sense of connection is mechanical, fatalist, not the organic connection that Connie and Mellors share.
202 "Self! self! self! all self! tearing and shouting! They talk about a man's sensual selfishness, but I doubt if it can ever touch a woman's blind beakishness, once she's gone that way ... It was a low kind of self-will in her, a raving sort of self-will..." ~ Mellors (by proxy, Lawrence) rails against the selfishness a woman displays when she attempts to take her own sexual satisfaction into her hands, because naturally, a man is the active agent while the woman is the passive, and there is no natural rhythm nor real connection when both parties are getting their orgasms separately.
206 "I believe if men could fuck with warm hearts, and women take it warm-heartedly, everything would come all right." ~ Mellors again, discussing the emotional connection that lovers should be sharing when engaging in intercourse.
214 And again, in the gambling, he was gone in a kind of unconsciousness, or blank intoxication, or intoxication of blankness, whatever it was. ~ Clifford does not gain any kind of connection in his gambling with Mrs Bolton, but oblivion.
233 'The universe shows two aspects: on one side it is physically wasting, on the other side it is spiritually ascending.-'
~ This is intellectual / spiritual aspect of connection that Clifford is aiming for, and Connie juxtaposes it against the "resurrection of the body" that Tommy Dukes upholds.
247 They made one think one wanted sentiment. When what one supremely wanted was this piercing, consuming, rather awful sensuality.
~ Lawrence makes his point again that the best connection to be found isn't in sentiment, nor intellectualism, but in sensual love.
253 "I've never met the man yet who was capable of intimacy with a woman - giving himself up to her. That was what I wanted. I'm not keen on their self-satsified tenderness, and their sensuality. I'm not content to be any man's little petsy-wetsy, nor his chair a plairsir either. I wanted a complete intimacy, and I didn't get it. That's enough for me."
...
Complete intimacy! She supposed that meant revealing everything concening yourself to the other person, and his revealing everything concerning himself.
~ Hilda's idea of connection - it is in terms of personality. A bit like Clifford's idea of the habit of marriage, but not quite there.
271 "Perhaps only people who are capable of real togetherness have that look of being alone in the universe," said Connie. "The others have a certain stickiness, they stick to the mass, like Giovanni."
~ Connie making an observation of Daniele, but also of Mellors at the same time. It is an interesting parallel, that people who look apart from society and civilization should be the most capable of organic connection.
277 "Sex is really only touch, the closest of all touch. And it's touch we're afraid of. We're only half-conscious and half-alive. We've got to come alive and aware." ~ Mellors.
323 We are bleeding at the roots, because we are cut off from the earth and sun and stars, and love is a grinning mockery because, poor blossom, we plucked it from its stem on the tree of Life, and expected it to keep on blooming in our civilised vase on the table.
328 The rhythm of the cosmos is something we cannot get away from, without bitterly impoverishing our lives.
330 Now we have to re-establish the great relationships which the grand idealists, with their underlying pessimism, their belief that life is nothing but futile conflict, to be avoided even unto death, destroyed for us. Buddha, Plato, Jesus, they were all three utter pessimists as regards life, teaching that the only happiness lay in abstracting oneself from life, the daily, yearly, seasonal life of birth and death and fruition, and in living the "immutable" or eternal spirit.
Linked to 233 quote : Clifford's spiritual ascendence.
The wounds of war have made clifford unable to tolerate human contact (Adelman 99)
His self-presevation requires a negation of human contact (Adelman 100)
Lawrence the literary philosopher, created an organic world view in which everything fit. (Adelman 54)
Lawrence himself, so invested in fracturing the binary between the intellect and emotions... (Adelman 109)
He is concerned always with human relationships, with the relations of the self to other selves, with the possibility of fulfilment of personality, and with exposing all the dead formulas - about romantic love, about friendship, about marriage, about the good life - which can cause so much deadness or frustration or distortion in the life of the individual. (Daiches 141)
But for Lawrence, problems of civilization must always be focused through problems of personal relationships, because civilization is judged by the kinds and qualities of human relationships it makes possible. (Daiches 146)
Joint participation in Clifford's work appears to offer Clifford and Connie some shared and meaningful activity... But this shared project is not long sustained ... This sentence contrasts strikingly with the narrator's conclusion Connie and Mellors after they have struggled together to push Clifford's chair uphill (Shiach 95)
He extricates himself imaginatively from the economic relations and industrial forms of production that dominate the world around him ... (Shiach 100)
We need at least three works cited and five works consulted. I've got the three works cited.
I know I should cite something from the Recollections I have, but baaahhh...